her second husband? >> guest: her second husband was another international guy. he was in indonesia. she met him at the university of hawaii. he was from the east-west center. brought americans the honolulu to prepare to go to asia for study. and that's where she met him. he was a tennis player. she fell in love with lolo. >> host: at what point did the move to jakarta? >> guest: he went back first. you know, both barack, sr. and lolo were constantly being watched by the ins and different regulations, and so lolo could only stay for a certain amount of time. he kept trying to extend his visa after he married her, and found ways to stay. so we got certain jobs that were related to geography and topography in honolulu to keep them there, but eventually things were changing and very dramatic political ways. he was back in 1966. in 1967, in october, barry obama and his mother moved back to indonesia. >> host: so the president lived in jakarta indonesia from 67-71, ages six through 10? >> guest: just about, yes. about four years. >> host: while you were in jakarta, david maraniss, you fo

ultimately determine prospects for war or peace in this world. while visiting indonesia, thailand and the philippines in october, i was reminded of the economic vitality of southeast asia and the fact that the ten countries comprising asean represent now the fourth largest export market of the united states. these countries are center stage to the circumstances with china. we must stand firm with our friends throughout asia and actively pursuit prospects for free trade and open sea lanes and other policies that will strengthen america's economic growth. more broadly, we face the specter of global resource constraints, especially deficiencies of energy and food that can stimulate conflict and deepen poverty. we have made startling gains in domestic energy production but we remain highly vulnerable still to our dependency on oil. and perhaps equally important, even if we are able to produce more energy at home, we cannot isolate ourselves from energy-driven shocks to the global economy. in other words, we have to cooperate with other nations in improving the global system of manufacturing a